I gather from the lack of response that people think this is a waste of time. Well fine. Let's just leave elderly ones with decreasing mental capacity and no internet access to be brainwashed.. Who cares, when they'll just pop their clogs soon anyway?!.. The apathy is staggering. I'm off to write a letter to my local home anyway. I won't waste another second here.
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Protect the elderly
by defender of truth inthis weeks km is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.. they are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. what can you do?.
well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself... warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc.
the km says they should identify themselves as jw's... .
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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So an animal couldn't enjoy it's life without the possibility of dying of cancer for example?
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Protect the elderly
by defender of truth inthis weeks km is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.. they are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. what can you do?.
well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself... warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc.
the km says they should identify themselves as jw's... .
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Protect the elderly
by defender of truth inthis weeks km is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.. they are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. what can you do?.
well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself... warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc.
the km says they should identify themselves as jw's... .
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This weeks KM is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.
They are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. What can you do?
Well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself..
Warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc. The KM says they should identify themselves as JW's..
Feel free to share any ideas you have for a letter template, or just to say that you would consider it.
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Apog: Guess you might be right there. But seeing as this creature replaces the fish's tongue and supposedly causes no other damage, it didn't sound like the best example of suffering when I read it. Anyway, I'd still love for someone to ask a Jehovahs Witness this question the next time they knock on your door..
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Did God create cancer? Also, do you believe in the Biblical flood account? Thanks.
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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I dare anyone reading this, to ask this question (why do animals have to suffer so much just because Adam sinned, or why does God kill countless innocent creatures or order them to be killed in the Bible) to a JW next time they see one..
For me personally, as someone who detests animal cruelty, just thinking about the literal global flood scenario helped me to see our 'loving heavenly Father' in a whole new light.. -
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Bttt for todays talk. Never mind why does God permit wickedness, why does he permit animals to suffer? Does he not see every sparrow?
Lurkers, what do you think?
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Perryposted~ 19 hours ago(4/25/2014)
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"Because the universe as it is, not as we would imagine it, allows for its possibility. When Adam fell, and became God's enemy ....everything in Adam, and under his dominion became disconnected one way or another - from the Source of Life."
..Whereas even the best apologist website I could find, a guy who has written an entire book on natural evil, said..
"However, given the very powerful evidence that animals (and their pain, suffering, death, and predation) pre-existed the first human beings, that view seems incomplete. If the pain and suffering of animals predates Adam’s existence, it is hard to see how his (or our) sin could fully explain it...it is worth asking this question: “If all animal pain and suffering came after Adam’s Fall, would the Fall be a potentially good explanation for that pain and suffering?”Many Christian theologians have thought so (Calvin endorses this view in his commentary on chapter 8 of the book of Romans for example).
But this explanation has one difficulty, a difficulty I call the “fragility objection.” To see the objection we must consider this question: “What is the supposed connection between Adam’s Fall and animal pain?"...In either case, however, it is hard to see why God would have made the integrity and well-being of nature, and of the innocent creatures in it, susceptible to the faithful obedience of humans (an obedience God knew they would not sustain). Why was nature made so very fragile in this way? Is not that fragility itself a defect (or evil) in creation?" -
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Theocratic Ministry School Review Answer Sheet of June PDF
by WatchTower87 intheocratic ministry school review answer sheet of june pdfinstruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
pdf: http://adf.ly/kvobk.
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Here's more evidence..
"I get a vrius message and can't download"
"I also get a virus message when trying to download .."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/279067/1/2014-03-29-BOE-CONFIDENTIALS-PDF-Adjustment-to-financing-Kingdom-Hall-and-Assembly-Hall-construction-worldwide